This is part I of a guest post by British investor ‘Pete’.
Perhaps an introduction is the best way of starting this blog post since it should explain my reasons and approach to Peer to Peer (P2P) and Peer to Business (P2B) lending.
I am a UK based independent professional engineer. An engineer in my discipline requires a love of detail, data and spreadsheets and being independent it is required that I run my own company so I understand basic accounting and number/data manipulation.
So why do I invest in P2P and P2B? In the past I have had Pension funds raided, Investment funds loosing capital due to stock market losses and fees, a mortgage endowment policy returning 1.9% over 25 years when a simple cash investment returned +9%, shares devalued by the UK government who then bought them out at the devalued rate … a long list of ‘professionally’ managed schemes that lost my money. With P2P and P2B I am in control, I either sink or swim based on my decisions.
I started lending at the start of 2012 with Zopa and to a lesser degree with Ratesetter but not before I had read as much as I could find regarding P2P and the various business models. Using on-line resources research into Company and Directors ‘histories’ followed, a process I continue to use before I start investing with a new platform. Risk and Taxation were the next topics I looked into.
Whilst projected default rates were available on Zopa I took a pessimistic view and anticipated a higher rate of loss when I put together my first spreadsheet to log my transactions and real rate of return (I mainly use Excel with the XIRR function). My aim with Zopa was to diversify as quickly as possible so I quickly put together a large number of small loans whilst ensuring that I didn’t have ‘dead money’ waiting to be lent out. This strategy worked and my losses have so far turned out to be below the Zopa projected level. In recent years Zopa have changed the way monies are lent out and introduced a provision fund to cover bad debts (Ratesetter have always had a fund) and at the same time investors rates dropped (Zopa dictated the rate at which money was lent) so I decided with regret that Zopa was no longer for me and started to withdraw monies as they became available, a process that will continue for some years since I am still happy with the return from my remaining loans.
In the meantime my Ratesetter account quietly built up (the power of compounding interest) and I had started investing in Funding Circle (Sept 2012). I quickly found out that due diligence was required when investing in listed loans (I do not like automatic bidders, I will always manually invest/re-invest) and whilst time consuming it gives some reassurance that you are not investing blind. Whilst the returns I received (and still receive) from Funding Circle are above those I receive from Zopa and Ratesetter I have found the time taken checking companies can be disproportionate to the return if small loans are made. In spite of due diligence the defaults in my experience are higher and coupled with the current UK taxation system for individuals, defaults can hit your rate of return in a disproportionate way.*
It is for these reasons that I have in the last year started withdrawing cash from Funding Circle in the same manner I am taking with Zopa. In the meantime my Ratesetter account continued to build.
With cash reserves to invest from maturing traditional bank bonds I have continued to look for new opportunities. In considering new platforms and loans I now not only carry out the due diligence I wrote about earlier but I consider several other factors including
Loan term (s) – what are / will be available?
- Accessibility of cash – is there an exit strategy if necessary and what is the cost?
- Aftermarket – does the platform have an active aftermarket so you can increase / decrease exposure to loans?
- Has the loan been pried to reflect my perceived level of risk?
- Payment of interest – monthly or end of term? Do you need to juggle interest between tax years?
- When will Capital be returned – monthly or end of term and is this reflected in the pricing?
Being a UK investor I am an avid consumer of the ‘P2P Independent Forum’ this is for two reasons. Firstly a lot of knowledge and detailed information is shared and secondly some platforms interact directly with their investors. I find this interaction extremely useful since it not only helps build a level of confidence but it also shows that as investors we are not taken for granted and that when issues arise they can be and are dealt with.
*Different rules apply to incorporated entities where defaults can be offset. My Company takes advantage of that rule since it also invests in P2P / P2B and invests in some of the platforms given above. Working capital and tax payments are invested in Ratesetter monthly markets with larger investments held in longer term loans in various platforms. In total the Company lends a £ six figure sum and whilst the weighted return is lower than my personal investments (due to the need to keep working capital in short term investments) it is still managing 6%, far in excess of the @1% that is being offered by the mainstream banking sector.
In part II you’ll read which platforms Pete prefers and for what reasons.
I am another numerate engineer, who’s degree was actually in Control Engineering.
I agree with a lot of what has been said and have invested for over eight years in various P2P Web Sites.
I shall eagerly await Part 2.